Sep 23, 2012 1:00am EDT
obama and governor romney, between the markets and business, and stocks jumping, pointing it a recovery. major companies, fed ex, intel, warning they don't see things improving. which should you be listening to. that answer could decide who wins the election. hi, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears and let's get right to it. the bulls and bears this week, terry b smith, tobin smith. and jonas max ferris, and who is right about it, the markets or big businesses? >> well, big business is right about the economy. you can believe them or not. they have no incentive to tell you things are bad. doesn't help the stock prices, what's really happening if you look at data points, the economy is loge down. new orders going down. trading partners going down. manufacturing going down and employment-- here is the rub, the change, bad economic news means good things for the the stock market. the stock market is not saying that the economy is recovering. the stock market is saying we're going to get more stimulus from gentle ben, more stimulus from mario draghi. not an expectation of recovery.
Sep 8, 2012 7:00am PDT
obama and governor romney both saying they can fix it, but whose plan will actually do it? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears. here they are, the bulls and bears this week, gary b smith, tobin smith. jonas max ferris along with larry glazier and susan, welcome to everybody. so, larry, unemployment still above 8%, what is it going to take to get the job market roaring back? >> sure, well, the president's jobs plan is just not cutting it, and you know, we know when we dig beneath the surface, the situation is much worse than the headline data suggests. we know that the underemployment rate, a comprehensive data level is 15 mers in this country and know that the labor participation rate, a reflection of whether people are actually looking for jobs is at its lowest level since the early 1980's, their wages are barely keeping pace with inflation. >> how are we going to get better, larry. it's only a half hour show. >> how we're going to make it better by getting the unskilled workers skills for. that's how we're' going to make it better. >> brenda: this is the 30th mon
Sep 30, 2012 1:00am EDT
harm than good, brenda, especially to the country's bottom line. look, i went through the plan, obama's plan. i went through his tv commercial, three things jumped out that just didn't make any sense, one, he wants to-- one, he wants to cut tax breaks or companies that outsource. when companies outsource the net effect is to create more jobs that were here. people were able to buy goods cheaper because companies are able to make the goods cheaper and buy goods cheaper and spend more money in other sectors, two the other they think he wants to do, he wanted to invest in education and training programs. that's all well and good, brenda and we know that's going to cost millions and millions of dollars, but that's not how the economy works. >> gary b, it's spending more, what does that do to the debt? >> well, brenda, he tries to get up, up, up. when i went to work for ibm 30-odd years ago, the government didn't teach me how computers work. bem caught me. rockefeller's oil company taught people how to drill for oil and gas and the third thing that strikes me that's not going to work. he w
Sep 30, 2012 8:00am EDT
and spend more green? president obama calling for economic patriotism on the campaign trail, including calling for higher taxes on the rich and new spending plans and it comes as we find out the economy's slowing, and someone here says the economic patriotism will only cause this number to keep growing. and take the economy down for good. are they right? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, here are the bulls and bears, gary b smith, tobin smith. jonas max ferris. and welcome everybody. gary b, is economic patriotism exactly what the economy needs? >> well, not this version of economic patriotism. you know, i think this plan is going to do a lot more harm than good, brenda, especially to the country's bottom line. look, i went through the plan, obama's plan. i went through his tv commercial, three things jumped out that just didn't make any sense, one, he wants to-- one, he wants to cut tax breaks or companies that outsource. when companies outsource the net effect is to create more jobs that were here. people were able to buy goods cheaper because companies are a